tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post9046408418953993842..comments2023-10-31T02:08:20.043-07:00Comments on CJS395 Spring 2012: Mandatory arrestMichael Gizzihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15691728024188312906noreply@blogger.comBlogger15125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-78398326856242244042012-04-25T10:53:25.465-07:002012-04-25T10:53:25.465-07:00Very interesting regarding the domestic violence b...Very interesting regarding the domestic violence being a high recidivism factor. I find it very intriguing that the criminal justice system has not implemented a type of mandatory anger management or counseling for this type of crime. Domestic Violence has no place in society and should be dealt with seriously. When an individual harms another individual in the instance of domestic violence, treatment should be sought along with counseling.Jmwiershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06558110868627260030noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-41958051736931987612012-04-24T19:54:31.832-07:002012-04-24T19:54:31.832-07:00There is no excuse for domestic violence. It makes...There is no excuse for domestic violence. It makes me sick to my stomach, however I do not believe mandatory arrest is necessary. The department should keep records of individuals and make a police report for every single case to know if it continues, but arresting for domestic violence can be abused by spouses. Even worse women may be scared to call the police since they know it will result in an arrest and possible jail time. The cases for domestic violence are extremely varied and those who cause it are troubled and may need help and counseling.Robert Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14559986508809887699noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-40333907687316522272012-04-24T18:56:56.034-07:002012-04-24T18:56:56.034-07:00I can see both sides of the issue. I think police ...I can see both sides of the issue. I think police officers should have the discretion in most if not all situations. It's up to the criminal justice players to make the just and ethical decision. that being said, I think every department should strongly suggest that every domestic violence situation be handled thoroughly the day/night of the instance. If its cut and dry (rarely is) that one person is being abused then an arrest must be made. I like the mandatory policy many departments have, where they will remove the accused from the house and send them somewhere.Declan Ohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13071869394072445955noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-70960871430716042242012-04-22T14:08:59.883-07:002012-04-22T14:08:59.883-07:00I personally do not think that mandatory arrests a...I personally do not think that mandatory arrests are the cure all. I think maybe it could be mandatory that one of the people involved has to leave and not be allowed back for say forty-eight hours or something. I think the problem with mandatory arrest is they take the possibility of diffusing the situation out of the equation. I have personally witnessed a situation where the female was the aggressor in a domestic disturbance and the department had a mandatory arrest policy. The officer even though every witness and there were three stated that the female was the problem, the male involved was the one arrested. I realize that most domestics involve the male as the offender but it is possible for the female to be the offender. I think that in this particular situation if the department did not have a mandatory arrest policy one of the people involved would have been allowed to just leave to diffuse the situation. The female involved was related to an officer from this department so there was no way she was going to be the one arrested. I realize that it is good to get one of the people involved out of there and keep them away for a period of time; I'm just not convinced that mandatory arrest is the only or best way to go about reached the desired ends.Brad Meltonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17119304789275805920noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-40961234507302456492012-04-20T19:44:13.248-07:002012-04-20T19:44:13.248-07:00I am all for prevention of domestic violence but I...I am all for prevention of domestic violence but I am not sure if mandatory arrests is the way to go. I think that the same results can be made if the aggressor at the scene is removed and made to go somewhere else for the night, and yes if the police have to be called back then the aggressor needs to be arrested. Things can often be very exaggerated by people involved in domestic violence cases. I think that if a police officer removes the aggressor and gives the victim the same information about community services to help whether it be financially or emotionally; the same results can often be achieved verses just throwing someone in jail.Jennifer Shepherdhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18284103026224745703noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-36014724314526769872012-04-20T17:48:47.882-07:002012-04-20T17:48:47.882-07:00If someone were arrested every time someone compla...If someone were arrested every time someone complained that their spouse hit them, the jails would topple over from being overcrowded. There has to be clear and concise physical proof or the person has to be so in fear for their life that they themselves are willing to be taken to a shelter. Even if there is clear proof, the victim has to be willing to press charges or the police cannot do anything. In IL, if an officer is called back to the same house within 24 hours of a prior call for abuse, someone has to be taken into custody. Look, to be blunt, if you are getting beat by your significant other, PRESS CHARGES!!! There shouldn't have to be a mandatory arrest law for domestic cases. People need to learn to make the right decision when the police are there and we would not be having this debate.Chris Whelchelhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08313497245275075580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-24596355613506817292012-04-20T12:16:02.153-07:002012-04-20T12:16:02.153-07:00I see that too, most women just do not call the po...I see that too, most women just do not call the police because they are scared to lose their means to money if there man is locked up. or some of them do not call because they are scared that will make the guy more angry at them and will try to hurt them even more. There are just so many reasons people do not take action anymore if they are being abused. I think if they are they need to really think about life because no one should be treated like that. No one deserves to be beaten for no reason. People who are in a violent relationship I think need to get out of that or it will never end.Tabor Aubryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15622463467654430926noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-41601956497812367012012-04-19T11:44:03.192-07:002012-04-19T11:44:03.192-07:00I'm glad that you decided to pursue a career t...I'm glad that you decided to pursue a career that can help people that have gone through the same situation. I will say that I completely agree that all police departments should have a mandatory policy on arrest when it comes to domestic violence. It gives people the time to think, and chill out about the situation. I used to be in a cadet program where were we were called onto a domestic scene and It was hard for me to deal with for the first time because there was 3 young children involved and it broke my heart. I feel that victims need to be protected overall.Victoria Simshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06970783011772136015noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-61423834538607378292012-04-18T19:22:34.822-07:002012-04-18T19:22:34.822-07:00Nice post, ya I completely agree that all departme...Nice post, ya I completely agree that all departments should have a mandatory arrest policy for such situations. I feel like it does show the victim that he/she does have the freedom to leave at anytime without fear of retaliation and also in some cases when the offender is taken away for a couple days, he is given time to cool off and avoid a worse situation.Kerolos Gabrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08269071199648584580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-5915739109724568432012-04-18T18:58:28.595-07:002012-04-18T18:58:28.595-07:00Nice blog and topic. I agree that there needs to ...Nice blog and topic. I agree that there needs to be specific mandatory arrests in each police department. Certain mandatory arrests will vary as you go from county to county, obviously, so this needs to be taken into account. Domestic violence definitely falls into a category of mandatory arrest in my opinion. People (usually women) living in fear is not OK. If the police will simply just tell the man to stop and figure out the matters on their own, women will continue to be afraid of even calling. Arrests will absolutely lower domestic violence recidivism and I agree that it should be a mandatory arrest when it happens. In justice, the victim needs to be protected and mandatory arrests will definitely help.Zachary Perkinshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08977947867059520793noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-17209098181604094352012-04-18T17:18:12.205-07:002012-04-18T17:18:12.205-07:00This is a very interesting article because I have ...This is a very interesting article because I have read studies that state the best way to resolve and reduce recidivism for domestic disputes is to arrest and separate the people involved. The police usually arrest the person who didn't make the 911 call. Mandatory arrest does pose many problems though. If someone getting abused knows that calling the police will lead to arrest it may deter them from calling. Some people even though getting abused don't want to see their significant other arrested. They may also depend on them financially or fear further and/or more severe abuse. I believe mandatory arrest would lead to many domestic abuse cases going unreported. While it may deter some from being abusive I think it negative deters the person getting abused from calling the police.MichaelAppelhanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14588805826320952922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-37813472099281687502012-04-18T17:12:10.891-07:002012-04-18T17:12:10.891-07:00I agree training officers may be more effective th...I agree training officers may be more effective than mandatory arrest.MichaelAppelhanshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14588805826320952922noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-70203991301639787502012-04-18T16:08:16.663-07:002012-04-18T16:08:16.663-07:00I can see both point of views on this matter. The ...I can see both point of views on this matter. The two being to have a mandatory arrest protocol established, but I also understand how if the individual gets arrested he/she could come back angrier. I have heard about many cases in where the person accused comes back and ends up murdering the victim, or if nothing is done it leads to greater harm or murder. This is a very difficult situation to deal with. The most important aspect of this is the police's discretion. It all comes down to how the officer's gut feeling is. The best way to try and fix this problem is to better educate and train police officers on the matter of domestic abuse. By doing this it will allow a police officer to use his best judgement/discretion on how to go about the incident.JimByrnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05185794089793172929noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-10527495586740337032012-04-18T10:40:31.595-07:002012-04-18T10:40:31.595-07:00The main problem here is that certain Women are af...The main problem here is that certain Women are afraid to call the police now knowing that an arrest needs to be made. These women are scared because they usually depend on the man financially. Also by arresting the abuser in many cases just makes him more angry will cause further harm to the wife. However, in any CJS matter there will always be positives and negatives. The positive would be that an abused person can call the police and know they will get justice on arrival. That could cause some problems later, but for now its a good temporary fix to get an abuser out of the home.Frank Afablehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10965731009137257976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-24067466074997632392012-04-17T14:32:56.008-07:002012-04-17T14:32:56.008-07:00First of all, I'd just like to say that I am v...First of all, I'd just like to say that I am very sorry that you were put in that position as a young child. No child deserves to witness domestic violence, but I am glad that you have chosen a career path that could potentially help other victims like your mother. Like you, I also believe in mandatory arrest policies but have a couple concerns about it. I have learned in previous classes that one turn off from mandatory arrest policies is that if the woman knows her husband will be sent to jail, she may be less likely to call upon the police officer's help knowing what the repercussions are. Therefore, it may lead to more domestic violence in the home that would go unrecorded. I think that many police officers need to be trained better in terms of siding with the victim and have a generous heart when it comes to helping the victim after the abuse has happened. Overall, I too have known friends of mine who have been in abusive relationships and would be more than happy to reinforce the three strikes law.Meghan Moorehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16963990910195571712noreply@blogger.com