tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post5171913881441556341..comments2023-10-31T02:08:20.043-07:00Comments on CJS395 Spring 2012: Zimmerman versus MartinMichael Gizzihttp://www.blogger.com/profile/15691728024188312906noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-91281872925899074272012-03-31T01:28:54.464-07:002012-03-31T01:28:54.464-07:00Earlier today I had someone from down south tell m...Earlier today I had someone from down south tell me that these types of laws are commonplace down there. You just have to prove that you felt threatened and you can use deadly force. That is crazy to me.<br /><br />Zimmerman's father & brother have been doing television interviews the past couple of days and there's so much about what they're saying that doesn't make sense. Zimmerman's dad doesn't even seem to have listened to his sons 911 call because his account of what happened is a lot different than the way I heard the call. Then they're saying that Martin decked Zimmerman with a single punch to the face which broke his nose & then bashed the back of his head into the concrete several times over. Zimmerman's brother said on Pierse Morgan that if his head would have gotten smashed against the concrete just one more time then George would have had to be spoon fed for the rest of his life. Really? I could go on about other things about their accounts that I found suspicious but I'll spare you.<br /><br />I want justice for both Trayvon and George but if the new investigation doesn't lead to some type of charge & we don't see Zimmerman have to plead his case in court then that will be disgraceful.Aaronhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05701520294581443381noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-84790926444919841232012-03-27T05:56:02.321-07:002012-03-27T05:56:02.321-07:00This story overall seems pretty far-fetched. I do...This story overall seems pretty far-fetched. I don't really see any viable reason that Zimmerman would have "felt threatened," but I also don't know all of the details of this case yet. Like almost everyone else has said so far, it's still extremely early in this investigation for us to be making conclusions because we don't have all of the facts yet. Even at this point, this seems like it's going to be an extremely high-profile case that will continue to attract a lot of media attention. I'm sure that we will continue to learn more about it as time goes on - at the times that the investigating agencies feel is the appropriate time to release certain pieces of information. In terms of Zimmerman, he's taking his neighborhood watch "duties" a bit too seriously...Jake Hirschhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18141231221475822487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-11658819846917328032012-03-26T17:23:06.688-07:002012-03-26T17:23:06.688-07:00With such little information available to us at th...With such little information available to us at this point in time, it's hard to draw a firm conclusion. I think the police know more than what they're saying and that's the way it should be until the suspect is prosecuted. There was a murder in my home town not too long ago and everyone there demanded answers from the police but since when does the general public know what's best for them? The police kept the details of the case silent for good reason; to catch the criminal! I know that's a little different in this case but my point is that the truth will come out; justice will be served. There's way too much light on this case for the guy just to walk free if he really did just shoot him out of hate, or taking his neighborhood watch too seriously. It'll be interesting to see where this goes and I, like many of you, will be anxiously waiting to hear what comes of it.Jacob Faivrehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01649655259737825967noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-36669051107662321992012-03-26T15:48:08.664-07:002012-03-26T15:48:08.664-07:00I agree with everybody, Zimmerman claims he did it...I agree with everybody, Zimmerman claims he did it out of self defense, which is not true, especially when he was following Trayvon, he was the one causing trouble. Clearly Florida's police department is stupid in my opinion for not arresting the guy. If the roles were changed they would of arrested him intermediately. There a lot of evidence against Zimmerman, there is even eyewitnesses at the crime, Trayvon girlfriend on the phone and the police records of him on the phone with them. He has no remorse and should go to jail! The society as a whole needs to change because this is ridiculous.Lashanda jameshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02823506724026927405noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-51271447125939360762012-03-26T12:27:09.337-07:002012-03-26T12:27:09.337-07:00Hard to believe Zimmerman has not been charged and...Hard to believe Zimmerman has not been charged and arrested yet. Agreeing with the other comments, if it was an African American who was the shooter, he would of been charged and arrested already. I also agree that the law does need to be reviewed and even changed. Hopefully justice will be served for this young boy.Josh Sternberghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11253355462266375258noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-3497655670996763502012-03-26T10:35:09.192-07:002012-03-26T10:35:09.192-07:00There is alot I would want to say about this case,...There is alot I would want to say about this case, but I won't. But one thing is VERY clear is the racism in this case. If a African American shot a young white kid then more than likely that AFrican American would have been charged and arrested. It is no second guessing. Why is this Zimmerman individual still not charged or arrested is beyond crazy and unjust. Things need to change in this society.kazio marshallhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12055100322716317055noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-9338634739535408992012-03-25T18:44:06.607-07:002012-03-25T18:44:06.607-07:00This Zimmerman fellow is an interesting character....This Zimmerman fellow is an interesting character. From his past history of emergency calls it doesn't surprise me that when he saw a black kid walking with his hood up, he became suspicious. He's the wrong kind of overachiever. I agree with the other comments in that I am not sure how this man is not currently in custody. The media has picked this up in recent weeks and rightfully so, this was a tragedy. You just have to let the system run its course and hope that justice is brought to that young mans family, and to Mr. Zimmerman.Anthony Hartzlerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16202765684125290881noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-42439641342715085282012-03-25T17:19:08.230-07:002012-03-25T17:19:08.230-07:00This is a really unfortunate case and I feel bad t...This is a really unfortunate case and I feel bad that there is no way for Martin to speak out, since he lost his life. At this point, it seems that it is Zimmerman's word against a dead boy's. I don't understand how he has not been charged yet, and will be outraged if he never is charged. You stated that the police told Zimmerman to stop following the boy, but he pursued him anyways. As far as I can tell, from Martin asking Zimmerman why he was following him, Zimmerman was the one who initiated the confrontation by following Martin because he thought something about him looked suspicious. I really hope Martin's friends and family can find justice and that one day, this man will be convicted.Rachel Brucarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13378639122769006642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-26482421751463992802012-03-25T16:12:27.907-07:002012-03-25T16:12:27.907-07:00I agree with you that people should have the right...I agree with you that people should have the right to bear arms, but this 'feeling threatened' law in Florida just seems too crazy. Because 'Feeling threatened' is such a general term, it can be applied to almost any confrontation. Obviously, deadly force should not be used in every situation. <br /><br />There is no doubt in my mind that Zimmerman is to blame for this tragic event. Not only was he told to stand down by the police, but his history with phone calls to the police shows that he is going out of his way to look for/cause trouble. <br /><br />Race is a huge issue in our society and will be for a long time to come, as proven in this case. It would definitely have received different coverage from the media if there was any race-reversal. The only way to attack this problem is to continuously bring up racial issues to the public and this is only a start.Seina Fatoorehchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01275413312125486064noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-19010650378086997022012-03-25T13:19:53.370-07:002012-03-25T13:19:53.370-07:00I agree with Ethan, In section on Wednesday we spo...I agree with Ethan, In section on Wednesday we spoke about this, and apparently Martin was walking home with a Tea and some skittles, while Zimmerman made the phone call to the Police. I feel this story is very vague and withholding some important information. In section Shane our GA explained that this "life threatening" law that allows deadly force upon an assailant falls under the castle doctrine which gives three pieces of interesting law...<br /> 1) if any one intrudes in your property (car, home, store, etc) to cause bodily harm, you can use deadly force.<br /> 2)it removes the duty to retreat if your in a place where you have the right to be, and no longer have to turn your back on a criminal to run when attacked. Instead you can stand your ground and fight back. force v. force.<br /> 3) Finally, people using force authorized by law, will not be prosecuted for using force.<br /><br />This is a very interesting article and story. It poses a few ethical questions, but also makes me wonder if this Floridian law will ever become unconstitutional. As of now all we can do is wait for the investigation to come back. There are a few agencies working on this case as we type, but for now we have to wait because for me this story is just too vague to make a decision or opinion on.<br />Great article!Derick Kalechttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01028004272550671171noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-76626270875250160232012-03-25T12:16:50.139-07:002012-03-25T12:16:50.139-07:00This was a very interesting story to follow on the...This was a very interesting story to follow on the news. It seems to me that the man should have been arrested and charged because the kid did not pose a threat to anyone. It will be interesting to see what happens in this case over the next few weeks.Sarah Dooleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18294563501695476239noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7959803343678816550.post-39353930223161868982012-03-24T20:32:51.728-07:002012-03-24T20:32:51.728-07:00I watched a short (3 min) CNN piece on this last w...I watched a short (3 min) CNN piece on this last week, so I don't know all the facts. It is unclear to me what exactly happened from listening to the 911 calls but it appears that some eyewitnesses claim that it wasn't self-defense. Still, I'm not sure what to think about this yet. I feel like I don't know enough to have an opinion on it. There is something HIGHLY suspect about that entire situation. Why would an unarmed kid pose a threat to this guy? Was there any suspicious behavior? Is this just a case of an overactive neighborhood watch (almost vigilante-type) character or is there something sinister and racist at play? These questions have yet to be satisfied for me. <br /><br />I think there is definitely grounds to arrest that guy though. Not sure why the police didn't do it. Something to keep my eye on for sure.Ethan Boldthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10625602678164685888noreply@blogger.com